Younger and older than the Internet

Stalder (2005, pp. 63-64) neatly sums up the immeasurable difference that new information can make by stating that “Change is neither additive nor subtractive in an integrated environment; it is ecological. One significant change generates total change. If a species is removed from a given habitat, what remains is not the same environment minus that one species, the result is a new environment and the conditions of survival within it have been reconstituted. This is also how the ecology of information works. New flows of information can change everything.”

This is perhaps never more evident than in the creation of the Internet – this huge technological evolution changed everything. From the telegraph to the huge abyss we now find ourselves immersed in that is cyberspace, it is these globally integrated information networks that have had the greatest impact on the formation of the network society.

This podcast explores perspectives on the Internet from both a 52 year-old woman who witnessed its emergence as well as children aged 9-12 who were born into a world which was already heavily dependent on it.


Stalder, F 2005, ‘Information Ecology’ in New Media, Open Cultures and the Nature of Networks, Futura publikacije, Serbia, pp. 62-66.


17 thoughts on “Younger and older than the Internet

  1. This is great stuff Ash, because:
    1] You picked a really key part of the Stalder text to tangle with, as it illustrates that the change wrought by the telegraph then, and the internet now was a total paradigmatic shift in media ecology.
    2] You illustrate that nicely through comparison between two distant generations and their perspective on the internet ecology.
    3] Your contextual piece is concise and coherent.

    Well done!

    1. Thanks for the feedback Ted, nice to hear that I’m on the right track.
      The part of the Stalder text that I chose to incorporate was definitely what stood out the most to me in the entire reading and what made me think the most about just how intense the changes bought on by these technologies was/is. The Stalder text you provided was very interesting.
      Thanks again!

  2. Hi There.

    This piece was really interesting. I really enjoyed the contrasting ideas, uses and place that internet has in the lives of your different contributors, particularly in regards to their age. I think the thing that resonated with me the most from your post, was the woman’s understanding of the context of the internet in terms of its place and contributions to society as opposed to your younger contributor’s lack of understanding of the value it truly has. Where the woman uses the internet in everyday life for work, and values the ease at which it has allowed us to access information, the younger contributor’s see its primary function as a means of communicating with friends and playing games. Perhaps another interesting way of remediating this topic could have been to use projective techniques in the form of asking your contributor’s to draw what the internet means for them. It would be interesting to see visually, the value and the place they believe the internet serves in their lives.

    1. wow thank you for your feedback! So nice to hear that you actually deeply listened to and learned from it. It was interesting for me to interview the three talents as it definitely made me consider where my thoughts on the internet lie, since I’m at an age that is somewhere between the young and the old.
      That is an interesting thought, I’ll definitely keep that in mind for future posts.
      Thanks again!

  3. This was a very creative and enjoyable to listen to. John Palfrey and Urs Gasser wrote a book called ‘Born Digital: Understanding the first generation of digital natives’ in which they refer to people born after widespread use of the Internet as ‘Digital Natives’. The children featured in your podcast would both considered by Gasser and Palfrey as members of the Pioneering generation of people. They are the first generation of people born into a world where everybody is always connected via the Internet.

  4. Really great post! Your remediation was very creative and interesting! It was great to hear the perspectives from both young and old which give insight in to the ways in which different people view and value the internet. Really good use of text as well which was very relevant to the topic. Great job! 🙂

  5. An enjoyable read, Ashleigh. The quote from Stalder ties in well with your remediation, which is also very enjoyable. I loved hearing different generations talking about their perceptions of the internet, the 52 year old talent made me reflect on my own dependance of the internet and I also found it interesting to hear from a younger generation than my own on this topic.

  6. Hey Ashleigh, this a fantastic post! Coming from a younger generation it is very easy to become complacent about just how big of an impact the internet has on our lives, and how that changes the dynamic of communicating information. Your podcast does a great job of providing some perspective on the topic!

    It’s also refreshing to hear the views of people from such vastly different age groups to the ones we are used to hearing from at uni. As a result I really feel like I gained something from listening.

    Overall I think your post was very effective and interesting and you portrayed it in only 2 minutes. Good work!

  7. Ash this is wonderfully done, the contrasts and insights are fantastic- perfect medium for what you’re trying to say. Stalder was a nice place to start, an added bonus as we visualise those ‘older than the internet’ to have an understanding of the context he set. It’s quite complimentary to the experiences I’ve wrought both pre and post computers/internet and a good reflection of the paradigm shift the change has brought as it made me see first the changes in myself.
    Very well done, I’ll be using sound cloud next week!

    1. Thank you for your feedback 🙂 and thanks for taking the time to check out both by posts and make the connection between the two. Aw cool good luck with that, I’ll be sure to check it out!

  8. I love this different take on a podcast, using other people as your voice, so to speak, because it provided a new point of view. This is one that I don’t necessarily get to hear a lot considering I’m not in the presence of the younger generation all that often, especially, being at university we are, mostly, surrounded by the same age group of people. Even though it was only 2 minutes it was very effective and engaging. Good work!

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